SUBTLETY ROGUE
Subtlety Rogue is built on the Subtlety talent tree and plays as a damage dealer in raids. The tree has 19 talents: 5 new in Forever, 12 changed from Classic.
SUBTLETY GUIDE
We'll write the Subtlety Rogue rotation, stat priority and recommended build as the beta data settles. For now, see the talent tree below, the talent calculator and the class discussions on the forum.
WHAT IT BRINGS TO A RAID
The catalogue has no raid contribution tied only to Subtlety; the ones below apply to every Rogue.
DIFFERENT IN FOREVER
- Hemorrhage: Raised everyone's physical damage in Classic; in Forever only the rogue's own Rupture.
TALENTS
Hover or tap a talent to read it below. Text is for the final rank.
CamouflageRow 1 · 5 rankChangedReduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 6 sec.
Master of DeceptionRow 1 · 3 rankChangedReduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.
OpportunityRow 1 · 2 rankChangedIncreases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.
SetupRow 2 · 3 rankChangedGives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.
ElusivenessRow 2 · 2 rankReduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.
Dirty TricksRow 2 · 2 rankNewReduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%.
Improved AmbushRow 2 · 3 rankMovedIncreases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.
InitiativeRow 3 · 3 rankChangedGives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
Ghostly StrikeRow 3 · 1 rank · activeChangedA strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.
Improved DistractRow 3 · 2 rankNewIncreases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower.
Heightened SensesRow 4 · 2 rankChangedIncreases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%.
PremeditationRow 4 · 1 rank · activeChangedAdds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
Serrated BladesRow 4 · 3 rankChangedCauses your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.
Dirty DeedsRow 5 · 2 rankChangedReduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.
PreparationRow 5 · 1 rank · activeWhen activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
HemorrhageRow 5 · 1 rank · activeChangedAn instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.
QuietusRow 6 · 5 rankNewYour Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 10% more damage against targets below 35% health.
CutthroatRow 6 · 5 rankNewYour Backstab has a 15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
Thousand CutsRow 7 · 1 rankNewWhen your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.
Removed from Classic: Sleight of Hand, Improved Sap, Deadliness
Talent, spell, race and raid data: talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0), from the WoW Forever beta client; data date 2026-10-14. Numbers can lag live tuning. Spell names, icons and tooltip text belong to Blizzard Entertainment. Rogue talent calculator.
